Talk:Great Eulhae War

Here's a draft combining all the Eulhae ideas we've come up with in the past that I can find. There are probably a lot of things that don't work with one nation or another's desired history. But I'd like to get a basic outline out first, so we actually know what we're discussing and changing.

Meisaan-Mincang conflicts

 * In the 1890s through 1920s, there are a series of wars between Mincang and MS:
 * First Meisaani-Mincangan War: The little southwestern corner of Sansiao (SW of Xiayan) is basically under loose Mincangan control/influence -- at this point Mincang still probably is struggling to get its whole territory centralized. Meisaan thinks it can pretty easily just take it over, since it already controls the rest of Sansiao, and then probably push beyond the hills into the little lobe of Mincang that sticks out towards Sansiao, which it also thinks is probably farther than Mincang can really extend itself. It does so, but then Mincang surprisingly mobilizes very quickly, retakes all of that area, pushes all the way through most of Sansiao. Mincang gets a bit stuck just north of the lake-y area at the east end of Sansiao, where Meisaan really digs in. Some potential for trench warfare. Eventually they settle with a treaty, but Mincang gets to keep control of Sansiao. Meisaan is angry, of course. Mincang uses the war as a way to basically force Zhuigo -- previously pretty neutral and strategically unimportant -- under its influence, strongarming it into some kind of confederation/alliance and stationing a lot of troops there.
 * Second Meisaani-Mincangan War: Meisaan tries to retake Sansiao, heading directly for Quejin and the central river valley. Mincang, now much better positioned in Zhuigo and Sansiao, sends large numbers of forces up the eastern valley, pushes all the way through that SE lobe of Meisaan, and takes control of Hausan. Meisaan is angry again. Mincangans become more patriotic and nationalist, getting happy that they finally span from coast to coast, like the great ancient Cheonje.
 * Third Meisaani-Mincangan War: Mincang is overextended and overconfident, JM is starting to get a little scared at the idea of Mincang having an East Sinju Sea port. Meisaan, with the backup of JM, recaptures its SE lobe and NE part of Sansiao, cutting off a substantial part of Mincang army in Hausan. Meisaan is victorious, but not tremendously so.

Bangju war

 * Somewhere between 1910 and 1925, messy rivalries in Bangju break out into war. Fusen and Hach support one side (including at least whatever’s in the area that becomes modern Sakushi), JM supports the other (which is probably a bit more independent of JM influence and powerful in its own right, whatever it is). None of the three guarantor powers are officially at war, though. The relationship between Fusen and Hach is one of convenience — both want to get JM out of the way. Taniilux initially stays neutral, but joins on the side of Jeongmi to take advantage of a weakened Hach (which at this point is considered a major threat and rival).
 * War breaks out between Wamu and Sakushi over territorial disputes; JM backs Wamu while Fusen and possibly Hach back Sakushi. Sakushi is able to make limited territorial gains against Wamu in the beginning of the war, after which both sides dig in and the lines become largely frozen.
 * The war effectively ends in stalemate, with Fusen/Hach-favored forces having control over much of Bangju, but JM-favored forces still powerful the south. Fusen and Hach formally divide up Bangju into respective spheres of influence.
 * Taniilux comes out the war doing relatively well compared to the other combatants, due to its late entry and limited participation. Following the war, Taniilux focuses on maintaining its relationship with Jeongmi out of fear of another war with Hach and Fusen.
 * The Bangju war sees the first development of attrition-style warfare, setting up for Eulhae.

Rising tensions

 * Nuki allies with Fusen.
 * Mincang takes over some of the small states to its south — Lanxieu, Hhokai, Sitoan.
 * Hachuabsh wins a war with either Hokan or Meisaan (maybe 1895? 1900?), conquering Tepodalia (and maybe req-conquering Muwon?). Although initially allied with Jeongmi who wanted to prevent X Sinju colonial power from expanding any further in Central Yeongju.
 * Hachuabsh's nationalist & militant turn in the late 1920s alarms Jeongmi, as it increasingly realizes that Hach is a formidable competitor in Yeongju, fueling a wider naval arms race among all the major powers of the time.

Yedal

 * 1935 2.24 Nukigurun presentes an ultimatum to Nabei claiming that the events happened in Nabei were not a revolution, but a rebellion, and that if the troops were not disbanded by Samwol fifth, Nuki would accept Nabei royal family’s request for assistance and deploy troops In Nabei. After the ultimatum to Nabei, Nukigurun concentrates it’s forces on port X in the east and prepares for landing operation. The Yedal strongly condemn Nuki's ultimatum, while rushing troops toward Nabei. However, they did not actually expect the war to break out, and they were not fully prepared for the war. As a result, only 7 Division reinforcements gathered in Nabei.


 * The 1935 3.5 Nuki declared war on Nabei and Yedal in the name of suppression of insurgents and launched a massive landing operation. Unprepared, Yedal failed to deal effectively with simultaneous landings, and within a week six major ports in Nabei were occupied. Subsequent small-scale battles have left the Allies losing one after another to Nuki's overwhelming firepower, and even lost the control of the sea in A strait, making it is difficult to defend the coastline. So the army retreated inland to prepare for a defensive battle in the Jangbaek Mountains.


 * 1935 3.28 Nuki, who was advancing rapidly, encounters Allied forces at Y, and the first major battle occurs. Despite being outnumbered, the Yedal forces fought against Nuki, fiercely resisting using the geographical advantages of mountain ranges and weapons supported by Jeongmi. The battle ended with Nuki's victory, but the severely damaged Nuki stopped advancing. Allied forces build pillboxes across the mountain range to counter Nuki.


 * Owol forth, After completing preparations for the War, Jeongmi and Meisaan declared war on Nuki, forming the Allied forces. However, this was a great mistake, which Nuki claimed they intended only to help the Nabei royal family's formal request for support, but Yedal sent troops to his own interests, and that Jeongmi and Meisaan's declaration of war was imperialistic ambition. Mincang, Gaoxiong, Fusen, and Hachuabsh, who were dissatisfied with the two countries' global hegemony, signed the Chukyo pact in support of Nuki and formed the Contingent Power.


 * 1935 7.2 Meanwhile, Nuki's advance to the defensive line formed by the Allies in the Jangbaek Mountains was blocked, and a new landing operation was set up to land in northern Yedal. The Allies also knew that Nuki was trying to mount a massive landing operation, but did not know where they would land. They expected Nuki will land in O because the port was developed, making it easier to supply and the surrounding flat area makes easier for the Nuki armoured division to advance, and they can halve Yedal with only advancing 500 kilometers. In addition, there was a fierce air battle over Hwasan, and Nuki mobilized a battleship to bombard O, so the allied forces gathered troops on O. But this was a trap, and Nuki's real goal was somewhere else.


 * 1935 7.8 Nuki made a surprise landing of 18,000 troops on Gwangpyeong. Allied forces, especially Jihwa, were embarrassed by the unexpected landing and rushed troops to Gwangpyeong. However, due to reforms centered on the Navy and Air Force, Jihwa's army was weak, with only 16 Division, of which only 4 Division was well trained. Nuki's advance with armour division gave the Allies a big push, and they were broke through without time to prepare for a defensive battle through the mountains.


 * Jijung, the capital of Jihwa, fell in 7. 24 and the royal family and leaders fled to Jeongmi. Northern Yedal's supplies were transported via Jihwa's railway system, but as Jihwa fell into Nuki's hands, Hwasan became unable to be supplied and was besieged by Nuki.


 * 1935 7.31 Allied forces engaged in a fierce naval battle with Nuki to retreat troops from Hwasan. But jeongmi and Meisaan’s naval forces were concentrated in East sea, and the Western fleet wasn’t enough to fight with Nukigurun’s navy. Crucially, Allied powers lost the battle in T sea, which became a disaster to the forces remained in Hwasan waiting to retreat. Nuki launched an all-out offensive against Hwasan, and within two weeks, Hwasan also collapsed and 170,000 Allied troops were captured.


 * Nuki, who conquered northern Yedal in 1935 8.2, planned two operations to take control sea around Yedal before a full-scale invasion to Xencovia. The first was the occupation of Seokdo. Although Jihwa surrendered, an exile government led by the king was still in existence, deploying submarines to the North Sea using Seokdo's ports, and hunted Nuki’s transport fleets. In addition, Johyeon airfield, located in Seokdo, was also a threat, so Nuki tried to consolidate it’s influence on Yedal by occupying Seokdo. After the defeat in the T battle, the Jeongmi Navy did not pose much of a threat because it was focused on defending the coast, avoiding all-out fighting. However, the Jihwa Navy was small in number, but was equipped with battleships and heavy capital ships, and was conducting fleet raids in conjunction with submarines, so Nuki first targeted the annihilation of the Jihwa fleet. The second was to gain control in the West Sea. At that time, the Allies received a lot of supplies from Namju, so they tried to prevent supplies by blocking West Sea. This also allowed us to expect a sea route connection with Mincang.


 * A coup in Nabei results in the establishment of a pro-Xencovian government, denounced by Nukigurun. Nukigurun presents an ultimatum to Nabei government, telling it to step down or otherwise face intervention. Nukigurun invades Nabei; war is declared by Xencovia. Jeongmi and Meisaan declare war on Nukigurun. The Chukyo Pact is signed by Fusen, Nuki, Mincang, and Hach, solidifying an anti-Jeongmi/Meisaan axis. Eulhae begins.
 * Basanreseri, with Fusen’s support, attempts to invade the neighboring JM-aligned parts of Bangju. Jeongmi and Meisaan declare war on Fusen and Basanreseri. The war begins in Bangju.
 * Basanreserian Seogwan attacks Mennefer, in coordination with Nukigurun.
 * Fusen and Sakushi jointly invade Wamu, with Fusen seeking to eliminate an independent state aligned to JM in its backyard, and Sakushi seeking to press territorial claims. They partition Wamu, with Fusen responsible for the capture of and entitled to most of Wamu, while Sakushi is assigned a relatively small stretch in the south.
 * Wamu was counting on trench warfare to defend itself, as it had done during the earlier Bangju War. It prepared extensive networks of trenches along the borders, but had done relatively little to build up or modernise its air force as compared to Fusen, or even Sakushi (which was supplied with Fusenese aircraft).
 * The Fusenese and Sakushin air forces quickly gain air superiority over Wamu, and are able to attack Wamese trenches and supply routes with near-impunity. The Wamese trench networks are overcome and the country falls soon after.
 * Taking advantage of the chaos in the East Sinju Sea, Mincang invades Longzhou; in response, Meisaan formally declares war on Mincang. Fancy Mincang ski troops invade Meisaan directly over the western mountains in a surprise attack that skirts Sansiao (part of Meisaan at the time), where Meisaan was expecting an attack to come from down the river valley in Zhuigo. A massive proportion of the Meisaani army is encircled in Sansiao and destroyed. The defeat of the Meisaani army in southern Meisaan alarms Jeongmi, which up to this point had not fully mobilized.
 * Coordinating with Mincang, Fusen invades Yeoseo and commits many war crimes.
 * Mincang forces continue their offensive up the Meisaani coast.
 * Hachuabsh invades the Hweshed islands and the Jeongmian colony of Hallaiha. Jeongmi, Meisaan, and Taniilux declare war on Hachuabsh. The war begins in Yeongju.
 * With naval support from Fusen, Mincang forces reach Minghoi. The Meisaani government capitulates and some elements of the Meisaani army are able to retreat into Jeongmi. Hokan has been neutral but Mincang-friendly up to this point; Mincang decides it is not worth the risk and invades.
 * Matobo invades parts of Miju.

Middle War

 * Meanwhile, Hach goes on a rampage through Yeongju and tries to invade Yahui, which is a JMan colony. It doesn’t really coordinate well with the other Contingents.
 * Also meanwhile, Nuki successfully occupies Yedal. JM and Nuki keep fighting over the area, but the war is not as intense at this point as it is elsewhere in the world.
 * An unusually harsh winter begins northwest Meisaan, which forces the Mincang advance to a halt.
 * Jeongmian-Meisaani forces attempt a counteroffensive and briefly retake Minghoi, however Mincang rallies and is able to stop the Jeongmians and Meisaanis. The war in northern Meisaan grinds into a stalemate, with Minghoi changing sides multiple times until the Allies launch another counteroffensive toward the later stages of the war.
 * Mincang and JM bomb each other over and over and over.
 * A coup occurs in Cheranaga Nadu, which has been effectively uncontrolled since Longzhou was invaded.

Late War

 * Hach gets bogged down in a guerilla war in Yahui, as well as constant fighting with Taniilux; internally, mass strikes lead to a revolution that make Hach’s continued participation in the war impossible. The new socialist government in Hach negotiates a treaty with the Allies that involves sacrificing its gains in Yeongju and empire in Bangju, as well as giving up a small island chain (that jm later builds military base?)
 * Hach loses eastern Bangju (Hekatsut and area) to Allies, who slice it up into a confederation of ethnic groups that don’t get along (not!Yugoslavia) after the war.
 * Some stranded Hach regiments in Yahui begin fomenting the beginning of a Yahui independence war.
 * Mennefer demolishes Seogwan but continues fighting Nuki. Lots and lots of people die but not a ton of progress is made.
 * JM now has control over much of Bangju, and surrounds Fusen on all sides. It takes back Basanreseri and all of Bangju from Fusen. JM also conducts massive firebombing campaigns on Fusen and Mincang.
 * Sakushi sues for peace/changes sides after the war appears to turn irreversibly against Fusen, ceding territory gained during the war and paying reparations to neighbours. It also adopts a new constitution that reduces the powers of the President and increases popular representation in politics.
 * Meanwhile, JM is finally figuring out mechanization, and its technological/strategic advances make it more successful against Mincang in northern Meisaan. It launches a second assault on Mincang’s northern front from the coast of Hokan, in coordination with a substantial Hokanese resistance movement. At the same time, Namju lands in Sitoan, on Mincang’s south, and pushes north. Mincang eventually surrenders.
 * Fusen finally surrenders. Some Fusenese rump state(s) in Fusenese colony/ie(s) on another continent continue fighting.
 * Once the other major fronts have concluded, JM can turn its full attention toward Nuki. It slowly but steadily liberates Yedal, and gives stronger support to Mennefer in the west. Nuki will not surrender, but JM is unwilling to conduct a land invasion. JM drops a nuclear weapon on Nuki, and Nuki finally surrenders. The Sinju war is over.
 * It takes a while for people to finish fighting in Miju and Yoju.

Unresolved questions

 * Not sure what happens with Kinshu? Is it aligned to the Allies?
 * Not sure what Kaisa was doing; might it have been a territory or satellite of Fusen?
 * What’s up with Taikieng? It’s hard to imagine that Mincang wouldn’t try to invade if it were an Allied power.
 * What exactly happens in South Jungju? How connected is it to the rest of the war? (I don’t think it necessarily has to be very connected at all.)